Dreaming of Who? Whoa!mance + Shelf Love on Dreaming of You by Lisa Kleypas - Whoa!nus
Dreaming of Who? Whoa!mance + Shelf Love on Dreaming of You by Lisa Kleypas - Whoa!nus

Can we get vulnerable for a bit? Hope so, because we did.

Along with Jodie Slaughter and Andrea of Shelf Love Podcast, we come together - not unlike a certain Derek and Sarah - to reflect of what DREAMING OF YOU by LISA KLEYPAS. has to say about feminine identity, romance readers, and, as ever, ourselves.

Why Derek Craven and why not Joyce?

Why does Romance seek the approval of systems that do not serve it and indeed don’t even get it?

Are we not all always already overidentifying with main characters?

Does DoY have problems or is it all cunning craftwork?

Be sure to listen to the separate Whoa!mance and Shelf Love discussions before diving into the meta-ness and meta-mess of this text.

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Public Access Read-A-Long "Pride and Prejudice" Chapter 26
Public Access Read-A-Long "Pride and Prejudice" Chapter 26

Welp Mr. Collins done married Mz Charlotte Lucas and Mr. Wickham has discovered a new first object and she comes with 10000 pounds. Lizzie feels one way about her bud Charlotte's choices and another about Mr. Wickham's. We begs the question--what does the text think about Lizzie? What do we think of her in this well rounded epistle driven storm of a chapter?

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Whoa-llab w/ Shelf Love Part 1 - 140. Dreaming of You: Justice for Joyce
Whoa-llab w/ Shelf Love Part 1 - 140. Dreaming of You: Justice for Joyce

This episode we embark on a Duologoy, a duet of sorts with Shelf Love. In an attempt to highlight the manifold approaches one can have to a single text, we are each, discretely, discussing DREAMING OF YOU by Lisa Kleypas. We have not listened to one another's discussions prior to recording/editing our own episodes, so there might be cross-over, but that will be as interesting as the unique points we each explore. Because, as our Vice President so aptly observed, who doesn't love Venn Diagrams?

Shelf Love is kicking things off, and the next round is on us.

Let’s talk about Joyce Ashby from Lisa Kleypas's novel Dreaming of You. We delve into the dichotomous portrayal of Joyce as an irredeemable villainess alongside her foil, the redeemable “hero” Derek Craven. We explore the parallel themes of violence, possessiveness, and animalistic sexuality resulting in problematically differing fates and treatment by the text. Belched from the underworld, Defender of Bisexual Villainesses Dame Jodie Slaughter joins Shelf Love in this special cross-over project with Whoa!mance - watch for the next episode, in which Morgan and Isabeau share their conversation about Dreaming of You.

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Guest: Dame Jodie Slaughter, Shelf Love’s Expert on Bisexual Villainesses

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Episode 154: Space Cadet - "The Darkness Outside Us" by Eliot Schrefer
Episode 154: Space Cadet - "The Darkness Outside Us" by Eliot Schrefer

Blast-off baby! This eppy yr grls are moon walking across some big topics in YA romance with THE DARKNESS OUTSIDE US by ELIOT SCHREFER.

Ambrose is fulfilling his lifelong training of space travel, and he is fulfilling it to rescue his beloved sister. And so is soviet-adjacent Kodiak (without the sister part). Will the two be able to put aside their ideological differences, and the creeping feeling the mommy-voiced Operating System is not on their team, to fall in LOVE?!

What are the ethics of consuming YA romance when you have a full-developed frontal lobe? Did the Cold War break our ability to think expansively? Do you HAVE to fall in love with the one other cadet on your space ship?

Houston, we have another romance-reader existential crisis!

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